NL VS NL MEMBERS (VICTIMS, LIARS AND JUST PLAIN PISSED OFF) 9.19.2006 |
Naijalurker blog:
"Nairalands also boasts of 49714 Members which I essentially believed and used as an advantage over NR a while back, but a questioning link provided by an apparently peeved NL member showed some shady statistics that insinuated that Seun Osewa: the founder of NL had deceptively "upped" the numbers manually."
Seun Osewa:
"Why would I want to up the numbers? It's very sad that people would believe somehing like that. It's very frustrating that people would always be looking for reasons to bring one down. I may be many things you don't like, but I'm not a liar.
I don't mind it if you call me anti-social or a dictator or whatever else. I know that I am not always the most friendly or pleasant person. But calling me a liar without any proof or motive is just going to far.
If I decided to inflate the member count, why would I leave the post count unchanged? And for what reason, anyway? Only a pathological liar would tell a lie when there's nothing to lose by not telling it, and that's something I am not.
I don't deny that I am primarily concerned about revenue, but how does an inflated member count put money into my account? Can I spend the members in the market?"
Points Seun missed from our quote:
I "Questioning link": I called it questioning because the information it provided might be false about nairaland. I simply mentioned the fact that someone pointed out that you might have tweaked the numbers.
II "Apparently peeved NL member": that was another hint to readers that the info might be a product of a victim of injustice on your web board.
III "shady statistics" : once again! If I truly believed that you "upped" the numbers, would I have referred to their statistics as shady? No
IV "insinuated" The definition of that word serves as my final point
Is it true that there was a thread providing the link in question on nairaland. (Thread titled "is nairaland a fraud") Yes
Is the thread anywhere to be found No
Do we wonder why? Yes
Seun Osewa:
"..If I decided to inflate the member count, why would I leave the post count unchanged? And for what reason, anyway?..."
Mariam Alakija:
"Many have left the Land (nairaland) so do not be deceived by the number of members you see, they are not active, and when like me u ask for your account be closed, and your details cancelled, you will get an automatic ban , but your details still held"
"Wham ban thank you ma'am, what was once yours now belongs to us?"
Plays like the story of the greedy king who enjoyed killing his people but desperately needed their existence to survive.
Mariam Contd:
"A few weeks back during a scandal regarding the fake death of a member, a stunt many believed to be an idea drummed up by seun to draw publicity to nairaland but then backfired"
Why do I suddenly have the urge to say "Long story, say goodbye to NR!?..."
As Mariam was saying.:
"..during this scandal, many asked to be removed from his database as they no longer trusted their details in his hands, seun retaliated by publicly disclosing 7 members email addresses and Ip addresses to the whole nairaland forum, a practice which is totally unethical and immature and above all a breach of trust. I dont know if its down to the fact that he has never left the country and seen how ppl behave in civilized ways...."
What is it with Mariams and Admins on Nigerian Forums anyway?!
Mariam is not finished....:
"...I am no longer a member, i asked for my account to be closed because i saw all the goin ons and decided it was an unhealthy environment to be in. I sent a mail to seun saying it was time i left and just wanted my account closed, you should know that we did not have words prior to this, i was sent an email saying "i will no longer be able to log on the site,my details will be kept and used which ever way seen fit for him to use and as he has too many members at the moment, my decision to leave met him with great delight as one less member will leave the forum easy to navigate for others...''
I tell ya, if I had a forum with a fucked up database like naijaryders.com, I'd probably do the same thing to make the forum easier to navigate for others: Allow 1000 people to register, ban 900 of them, and while 100 people generate 1000 meaningless posts (90% in a picture thread with no pictures) who will argue with my stats when I claim to have 1000 members?
Sounds like a plan, I shall call it NAIRALAND.NET!
----------------------Later That Day-------------------------
Damn, looks like someone already beat me to the name!
Meet Alhaji Nurudeen!
Nurudeen:
"Success is sweet.But what is success of a website without the user base.http://www.nairaland.net was created to send a message to the admin of the .com that pissing your users off will eventually prove expensive.
For the most part, people will put up with negative treatment, until you have their back to the wall. At which time they will turn around and face you.
I made meaningful contribution to the .com for close to 6 months.Over that period:
My posts were indiscriminately deleted, often because the admin was proved wrong in a discussion. The admin, Seun often comes across as juvenile, and conceited. Never concedes gracefully when he's wrong. Eventually, all such posts that portray him as unintelligent get deleted.
I witnessed so much negative treatment of the users of the site.
From all indications, most registered members are unhappy with the admin's conduct. But if that was the case, why do they remain members? Perhaps because they're unaware that tons of similar forums exist on the net.
In response to the admin's self-important behavior, I decided to create http://www.nairaland.net/
At the present time, http://www.nairaland.net/ is everything that the .com is, and more.
I would have never thought of creating www.nairaland.net, had it not been for the admin's attitude toward his users. I would have been perfectly happy contributing to the .com for a long time to come.
I'm sure many people out there feel the same way I do, and eventually, Seun will realise it's too little too late to redeem himself, as people move away in droves from his sit"
You might be a good person but you are definitely not a people person and maybe the reason why "people are looking for reasons to bring you down" is because they are "frustrated" with your dictatorship...sort of like the way you are frustrated with alleged liars now. What goes around comes around Mr O, be a little more sensitive. Besides, being called a liar should be the least of your problems..how about dealing with the negative names you called yourself earlier...admittance is the first step for recovery. You admit you are an anti-social dictator? I would never admit to being a bitch!
To the disgruntled victims and refugees of nairaland.com, naijaryders.com, nigeriansinamerica.com, nigerianentertainment.com etc.. Here is a little tip for you
LOG THE FUCK OFF!!
Or feel free to Lurk here because "here at the Lurk blog, we treat everybody the samelike crap" :) and you know you want to call us jobless yet you cant stay away!
Coming soon!: Naija Lurker goes one on one with Naijaryders one and only Diva. Trust me,, you think you know!
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